Ok, so I've been meaning to re-do my orbat for a LONG time now, but there's a problem I keep running into. My tanks outnumber my IFVs by almost 4 to 1.
Maybe more once I take into account I use my Fuchs and M-113s almost exclusively in other roles save for a few. So how does one go about organizing such a
force, seeing as I have very little in terms of mechanized infantry capability? To illustrate my problem, I have very close to 100 M1s. However, I only have 58
Bradleys. So nowhere near the right ratio. The way I see it there a few ways to solve this: 1. Super-size my tank companies/battalions. Although I really
don't like the idea of 18-24 tanks in a company. Doesn't fix the problem either, still lopsided. 2. Invest in more Bradleys. Currently in the process
of doing so. The Dragon ones are rather nice and not too hard to come by. However this option is not cheap and will take some time. 3. Organize an armor-heavy
force. Really mech inf is my only shortfall. I have the arty (2 batteries of G-6s (I will post pics of them), 1 of PzH-2000s, and 3 of ISU-152 Okas, plus 3 MRL
batteries), attack helos (5-6 troops, I forget), and engineers (1.75 companies) to support a larger unit, but always fall short in IFVs. So, ideas? Is there
any basis/practicality for an armor heavy force? How would such a force be organized? Thoughts/ideas/criticism welcome.
Advice for the armor-heavy force
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Randy Schuster |
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Posts: 3469 05/13/09 18:27:01 |
I would down size, not trade or sell, but just keep them back till your Mech Inf has a chance to catch up. Remember that you don't need all M2s, but LAVs,
KIFVs, AAV-7s beside the M2s, M113s, BMP & Fuchs.
With my 16 companies of Leopards, I use as a ratio as 5 M2s and 10 Fuchs per company as Mech Inf. PS all my tanks are 144 scale, but all M.I. are MMM |
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Pz gen |
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Posts: 3364 05/13/09 21:48:10 |
I think you are being a bit hard on
yourself...So you have about 100 M1s and 58 Bradleys. What you have is an armour brigade of two tank and one mechanised battalions. Brigades have no set structure. They are tailored
to the combat situation and mission, although you will find habitual relationships between units that routinely find themselves attached to the same
brigade. A Brigade HQ is staffed to provide command and control for 2 to 5 manoeuvre battalions (meaning both tank and
mechanised battalions) and all the field artillery, air defence, combat engineers and service support for up to 5,000 soldiers.
In your case your brigade could have three Battle Groups/Task Forces organised again as the situation dictates. For example: Battle Group 13 tank companies 1 mechanised company Battle Group 2
Battle Group 3
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Posts: 283 05/14/09 06:15:22 |
Some good ideas. I'm probably going to use a combination of both. Some questions though: Would each battalion have it's own recon company? And what
would be the size of one? Also, with regard to HQs, comapanies would just have a command tank/IFV, right? What would be the size/composition of the HQ for a
battalion and for a brigade? And an AA battery would be about 6 guns and a command vehicle, right?
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Posts: 3366 05/14/09 10:02:33 |
Each battalion will have a recon platoon of four to eight vehicles for example M3A2, Scorpions or armoured humvees.
The HQ for a brigade is similar to a Battalion HQ except HQ Main would now comprise six to
eight armoured command vehicles plus the extra light vehicles i.e. Humvees or Land Rovers?
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Posts: 1771 05/16/09 07:13:10 |
I did similar as you Flanker, I was tank heavy at 1st with my orbat, then started adding more APC/IFV;s down the road.. but there is nothing more exciting in
one's collection than tons of M1's and then all the 1/144 tanks!
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Posts: 284 05/16/09 10:02:32 |
Oh yeah they definitely do look impressive lined up. But as soon as I start to consider the realistic side of things they look a little less impressive. Right
now I'm looking at a 2 brigade force, one made up of M1s and Bradleys with pretty complete support elements and another made up of my other tanks and IFVs
that is rather understrength with regard to support. I guess things could be worse. Hahaha. Another question: Patriot SAMs, Scaleboard SSMs, etc. This kind of
equipment would be (for my purposes) held at the division level, correct? Or would a brigade commander have use of it depending on the situation? Keep in mind
I have 8 Patriots and 8 Scaleboards.
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Pz gen |
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Posts: 3367 05/16/09 12:18:15 |
Both Patriot SAM and Scaleboard SSMs are Corps levels. But independent Divisons could expect to have them attached.
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Pz gen |
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Posts: 3368 05/18/09 03:19:18 |
I now have an excess of Straight Flush radar. I intend re-role three as mobile artillery locating radar.
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